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John W E

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Where are all the British Warships
« on: January 05, 2014, 08:05:15 pm »
Hi all
 
I wonder how many Warships we do have in service here in the UK - after reading this
 
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2533846/Battle-stations-Navy-scrambles-destroyer-challenge-Russian-warship-British-coast-takes-24-hours-make-600-mile-journey-Portsmouth-base-Putin-testing-response-time.html
 
 
Food for thought, what does everyone think.
 
 
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 08:08:13 pm »
The Independent Scottish Rowing Boat Navy would be closer to hand in future incidences like this!  %%

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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014, 08:23:30 pm »
There  won't be any when we need them.

I wonder if there will be changes if  a Scottish Government is in power.
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2014, 09:00:30 pm »
The Royal Navy has been reduced to just :-

4 assault ships - 2 not available plus one of the 2 now in service to be decommissioned this year
19 surface warships ( 6 destroyers and 13 frigates )
4 ballistic subs
7 fleet subs
15 mine countermeasure ships
and numerous small craft.

Many of those will be undergoing re-fit and maintenance at any one time.

75 years ago the fleet consisted of 15 battleships and battle-cruisers with 5 under construction, 7 aircraft carriers, 66 cruisers with 23 more under construction, 184 destroyers with 52 under construction, 45 escort and patrol vessels with 9 under construction and 1 on order, and 60 submarines with 9 under construction.

The UK Home Fleet now comprises a single surface warship and it will require 30% of our surface warships to protect one of our new carriers when they eventually come into service.


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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 09:35:53 pm »
The number of ships in service also depends very heavily on manpower.
Back in the sixties the newly commissioned cruiser Blake had to be taken out of service to provide trained personnel for a commando carrier. The navy then had a strength of nearly 100,000 men.
It's difficult to see, given present levels of manpower and the funding available, how it will be possible to operate both a Trident deterrent and a carrier task force simultaneously.
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2014, 09:56:25 pm »
Don't forget HMS Victory, still in commission.
Within a generation the only British warships able to be modelled will be historical ones.
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 09:57:14 pm »
Well if the Russians had waited till Christmas Day most of our Armed Forces would have been on leave
(what little we have left)
51 years ago this month I joined my first frigate - I think we had more frigates and destroyers carrying out workup at Portland
 at any one time than we have in total now.
Perhaps this may make the Government reconsider its defence policy, but I doubt it

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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 10:00:18 pm »
Centrifuges now work overtime in the OZ navy.............

The Department cannot afford to keep the vessels bunker tanks full of fuel....so fill them with water
When the vessel is required.........drain the water .......refill with fuel & start the centrifuges

Gas turbines engines do not like xx PPM of H20 in the dezo  :embarrassed:..........Derek............
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 11:24:34 pm »
The UK seems to be sleepwalking to disaster as far as the armed forces are concerned.

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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2014, 12:39:42 am »
Guzz is empty. The ironic thing is there's usually more decomissioned subs in the base than active ones.

Although our strike capability with the Trident II's means that we don't need such a big surface fleet. If that russian cruiser had decided to lob a few over, a few missiles would've popped out of the sea somewhere and launched a counterstrike. They know this, it's Mutually Assured Destruction and that is what the world has gone by since the cold war.

But security in this country is shocking. It's worryingly easy to get into a base, and it only takes one person to try it...
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2014, 11:25:23 am »
Quote from: derekwarner_decoy on January 05, 2014, 10:00:18 pm
Centrifuges now work overtime in the OZ navy.............

The Department cannot afford to keep the vessels bunker tanks full of fuel....so fill them with water
When the vessel is required.........drain the water .......refill with fuel & start the centrifuges

Gas turbines engines do not like xx PPM of H20 in the dezo  :embarrassed:..........Derek............


you have water, you have coal
  why not turn your ships to steam O0 {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2014, 01:04:40 pm »
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But security in this country is shocking. It's worryingly easy to get into a base, and it only takes one person to try it...

   Course it is, but it's not a hanging offence anymore.
 
  Can't they recommission a few of the recent ones and crew them with Immigrants? Would be a lot cheaper to run.
 
  Regards  Ian.
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2014, 03:49:16 pm »
I wouldn't   be to concerned with the Russian  presence  , the  majority of their warships are well beyond their sell by date .
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2014, 03:57:39 pm »
Bet there was a "T" or an "A" hovering near it. O0
 
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2014, 04:31:20 pm »
Alliance is in Gosport  %%

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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2014, 05:08:12 pm »
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2014, 08:20:48 pm »
Steve Bush's annual book 'British Warships and Auxiliaries' is well worth a read for anyone wanting to keep up to date with what is happening with the British warship fleet.
 
http://www.navybooks.com/ShowDetails.asp?id=2906
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2014, 08:35:44 pm »
Quote from: tony52 on January 06, 2014, 08:20:48 pm
Steve Bush's annual book 'British Warships and Auxiliaries' is well worth a read for anyone wanting to keep up to date with what is happening with the British warship fleet.
 
http://www.navybooks.com/ShowDetails.asp?id=2906


Won't be a very thick book, will it ?  {:-{
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2014, 08:55:10 pm »
Quote from: Circlip on January 06, 2014, 01:04:40 pm

   Course it is, but it's not a hanging offence anymore.
 
  Can't they recommission a few of the recent ones and crew them with Immigrants? Would be a lot cheaper to run.
 
  Regards  Ian.

 :o :o  And make it easier for them  to take over the country  %) %)
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2014, 08:57:07 pm »
Quote from: RAAArtyGunner on January 06, 2014, 08:55:10 pm

 :o :o  And make it easier for them  to take over the country  %) %)

They don't need ships to invade - they are already here.
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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2014, 09:04:38 pm »
Quote from: Bowwave on January 06, 2014, 03:49:16 pm
I wouldn't   be to concerned with the Russian  presence  , the  majority of their warships are well beyond their sell by date .
Bowwave

For tooo long we have focused on Communism as the world threat and have taken out eyes of the ball.
 
There is a common enemy.
 
Australia, is in a worse situation and is relying totally on the US for military assistance, which I supsect is the case in the UK, even if they won't acknowledge it.
 
This is why, all exercises etc, are geared towards operability with the US armed forces, including NATO, which, (NATO), will be the safeguard against the unfriendly dominated UN.
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2014, 09:08:21 pm »
Quote from: RAAArtyGunner on January 06, 2014, 09:04:38 pm

There is a common enemy.
Australia


 %%   So, what should we do ?  <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2014, 09:14:30 pm »
Quote from: kinmel on January 06, 2014, 09:08:21 pm
%%   So, what should we do ?  <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<

Keep playing cricket  {-) {-) {-)
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2014, 09:17:10 pm »
Quote from: RAAArtyGunner on January 06, 2014, 09:14:30 pm

Keep playing cricket  {-) {-) {-)

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Re: Where are all the British Warships
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2014, 09:57:18 pm »
RAAArtyGunner ...a few down sides here........as we are not a signature to NATO & the Yanks don't play cricket....we in OZ are stumped.....[sorry that's a cricket word again]...... {-)...Derek
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