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[Martin (Admin)]

nickyb - sale removed. Account suspended.

[Tug-Kenny RIP]

Thanks to all that brought it to our attention.   

Cheers

ken

[sparkey]

  Getting back to the thread when does a toy become a collectable,those toys we played with as a kid are now rare collectables, that 2/6 pocket money we spent on that Dinky toy is multiplied into hundreds of pounds now,we all wished we kept the toys and the boxes as well, I have some toys in the attic some dating back to the 1960s you never know,Ray.  

[malcolmfrary]

OK somewhere near topic - collectibles.
Years ago I did trains before the eyesight went and good sense cut in.  I recall seeing, in the small ads in the back of Railway Modeller (for the average modeller - HA!) a sale ad for someone flogging a Triang L1, which, being out of production a few years, was a "collector's item".  Wanted £10, healthy money back then.  Two pages before that, in the New Products news page, "Triang reintroduce LI, £4/19/6".  Just goes to show.
I have an AMS9512 with a load of bits in my attic.  Disc drives probably need new elastic bands.

[Neil]

we all wished we kept the toys and the boxes as well, I have some toys in the attic some dating back to the 1960s you never know,Ray.

sorry ray..........but I don't.............when you look at all these saddo's on antiques roadshow that turn up with their pristine dinky trucks and cars in their pristine boxes.................you wonder what sort of life they had as a kid...........certainly no fun with them..........

never raced them with their mates on the pavement outside their houses.........never crashed them into each other's cars............my g o d......they must have had sad lives if they only had them bought to look at and then put away in boxes..................

Nah mate..........I had my hundreds of quids worth of fun out of mine when I had them when young............and that pleasure can never be taken away from me.

[Chris57]

From a previous life; dolls houses, if you would let a child play with it unsupervised, it is a toy, otherwise it is a model.

[dreadnought72]

Model ... 1570s, "likeness made to scale; architect's set of designs," from Middle French modelle, from Latin modulus, "a small measure".

Toy ... c.1300, "amorous playing, sport," later "piece of fun or entertainment" (c.1500), "thing of little value, trifle" (1520s), and "thing for a child to play with" (1580s). Applied as an adjective to things of diminutive size, especially dogs, from 1806.


So in a classic Call My Bluff sense that would suggest they're models. 

Andy

[malcolmfrary]

Model ... 1570s, "likeness made to scale; architect's set of designs," from Middle French modelle, from Latin modulus, "a small measure".

Toy ... c.1300, "amorous playing, sport," later "piece of fun or entertainment" (c.1500), "thing of little value, trifle" (1520s), and "thing for a child to play with" (1580s). Applied as an adjective to things of diminutive size, especially dogs, from 1806.


So in a classic Call My Bluff sense that would suggest they're models. 

Andy

So a toy is a model of little value, to be played with at a strong risk of being broken.  A model is a miniature of value to be kept as such.  Our boats often have a dual purpose being part art object, part plaything, and the proportion the the mix of these will vary.

[essex2visuvesi]

So a toy is a model of little value, to be played with at a strong risk of being broken.  A model is a miniature of value to be kept as such.  Our boats often have a dual purpose being part art object, part plaything, and the proportion the the mix of these will vary.

I think we need  new word for models boats that are "played with"


How about todels or modys?

[Victor Meldrew]

If you enjoy yourself and you have a good time then who gives a hoot what other people think or say.
 We all need some down time and we all get it in different ways. ENJOY THE TIME WITH YOUR MODEL REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH PLASTIC IS IN IT !

[RAAArtyGunner]

 Let us not forget the definitive comment,
 
Models are Big Boys Toys.
 
Here endeth the lesson     

[Bob K]

Models demonstrate clothes on a catwalk.
Any suggestions as to use as a toy will result in loss of teeth 

[essex2visuvesi]

Quote from the wife of one of the members of our RC Car Club
"You're just a bunch of big kids with more money than sense playing with toy cars"


Can't argue with that!


Or Patsy from Monty Python & The Holy Grail

[TugCowboy]

I think it can be quite relative.

I know a chap who is getting on a little bit in his years, doesn't have much creative ability by his own admission and not too much money either. He has a RC Boat which he bought at a charity auction a few years back for about £15.

By the scale of most modelers at the lake what he owns is a toy. But to him it's a model, he washes it down with fresh water after every outing and it goes on his shelf for him to look at. He enjoys looking at it as much as sailing it even though it might never win any prizes in shows.

In the same vein I have a beautiful model I spent years making, cost of parts alone was easily above £800 let alone my time spent lovingly crafting it. Last time we took it to the lake my Son bashed it into the side, the mast got snapped off and the railings bent but he had a great time (he was 3 at the time) to him it's a Toy, to me of course it's different. (he's had his own models built since then of course )
All depends who is looking at it and from what perspective they view it I suppose, can there be a right answer?

[Colin Bishop]

Quote from the wife of one of the members of our RC Car Club
"You're just a bunch of big kids with more money than sense playing with toy cars"

That's a bit rich coming from a sex whose members almost all seem to have an obsessive interest in 'fashion', talentless 'celebs', soap operas (no they aren't real people!) and the daily lives of the Royal Family. All those woman's magazines have a huge market!

Colin

[Neil]

That's a bit rich coming from a sex whose members almost all seem to have an obsessive interest in 'fashion', talentless 'celebs', soap operas (no they aren't real people!) and the daily lives of the Royal Family. All those woman's magazines have a huge market!

Colin

WELL SAID COLIN....................boy,oh boy, you're a brave man.........there are women on here you know,

[Bob K]

I have been working on my PhD in "Understanding Women" for half a century.
Despite my continuing high grades in Theory I seem to keep getting F's in the Practical Coursework.
That is why I now specialise in Model Boats instead.

[Netleyned]

I have been working on my PhD in "Understanding Women" for half a century.
Despite my continuing high grades in Theory I seem to keep getting F's in the Practical Coursework.
That is why I now specialise in Model Boats instead.

I'm 71 and still trying for a GCE  in the subject 

Ned.

[Bowwave]

I hear it so often at the lake side , oh it's old men playing with their toy boats .   Those that build models are not toy makers  they are model makers  regardless if the model is  working or non working.  At one stage models where used to build  full size ships , I doubt  such models where ever classed   as toys. Some of the finest models produced especially  the models made by French POWs from the late 18th early 19th century  are seen as an art form  and have price tags to match .
Bowwave

[Neil]

I'm 71 and still trying for a GCE  in the subject 

Ned.

you'll be trying a long time longer then , Ned............GCE's went down the pan 30 years ago, lol.....they known as GCSE's now adays