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[tonyH]

Good evening all,

Does anyone have any drawings, photos or other info on the deck cranes used on capital ships of the Dreadnought or pre-Dreadnought era? These were very large and featured highly in the visual effect of the ships.

I'm specifically after any details of the ones used in the High Seas Fleet and especially the later ones which seem to have a drivers cab arrangement about half way up. My main target is the top end of the jib where some seem to have bogies or travellers for the last couple of metres.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Tony

[Geoff]

Somewhere on the web is an excellent blog about building a model of SMS Pommern a pre-dreadnought of the high seas fleet. Given that many of the German ships had cranes rather than booms this may give you the info you need.


Good luck


Geoff

[dreadnought72]

Pommern at kaisersbunker.com

[dreadnought72]

Lutzow at sms-navy.com

[dreadnought72]

...and there may be stuff that's suitable within the Dreadnought Project's plans page.


Andy

[tonyH]

Thanks all. It seems that there are a number of variations on the 'goose-neck' variety and it's Murphy's Law that I'm building the Nassau which may have the worst of the lot.
I've attached a pic to show what I was aiming for but I've had to bite the bullet and use a bit of very stand-off licence to cobble something together.

[raflaunches]

I see what you mean, Tony- not the easiest to get info on the cranes, I've found these pictures on the Russian website I've been investigating:

[tonyH]

That's the trouble Nick,

Some of the Ukranian (Not Russian) site came up on Google and I've used them as a partial guide for the superstructures, along with other stuff, including photos, that seem to run against the Nassau model But you can see from the photo I attached that the crane is considerably more than the simple ones in the kit.
I've got a decent photo of the foot, showing the rotation motors and a lower platform but it appears that the lift gear AND controls are at the bend.

Just in passing, there seems to be a lot more variation between the Kiev plans and other info I have so beware

[Geoff]

I have a book/pamphlet at home under the series: Marine Arsenal Band 17 by Siegfried Breyer which covers Nassau and Helgoland classes with extensive photographic coverage.


There are a couple of shots of the cranes on Nassau which are very different from the others of the class and fairly clearly shows the crane structure etc.


See if you can find a second hand copy otherwise post back and I'll see if I can scan the page in for you. Its not 100% clear but its quite a good shot.


Cheers


Geoff

[Geoff]

Just to add to this I went to a second-hand books at www.abebooks.co.uk and they had a copy for £7.30.


Its all in German but a very interesting booklet.


Cheers


Geoff

[tonyH]

Cheers Geoff,

PM sent

[Geoff]

If this is still an open item I came across a picture of Nassau's crane in the Vanguard series - German Dreadnoughts volume 1. Its not a bad picture and the caption says the electric motor was external on that ship which may account for the "lump" in the pictures.


Cheers


Geoff