Topic: BLACKPOOL MODEL SHOW 2013 (Read 41489 times)

tugs62 · « **Reply #75 on:** October 19, 2013, 06:48:27 pm »

its a real shame about the venue but the models and trade stand are second to none
some thing has to be done about the venue as i think a lot more will stay away and we will end up losing this show
and how they get £2.00 for a cuppa is just disgusting you dont pay that on motorway services
so come on organizers look at some where different for next year just a thought but a marque down by the lake at fleetwood would be better that way a lot of sailing could be done

Stavros · « **Reply #76 on:** October 19, 2013, 07:22:20 pm »

To all you show knockers you KNOW who you ARE I challenge you the ones who ALLWAYS knock ANY show which you attend to ORGANISE a show .

I KNOW for a FACT you COULDNT so who wants to take me up on it and No it CAN NOT be a show that is organissed by OTHERS £500 says YOU CAN NOT ORGANISE ONE SO come on Kinmel....Netland....Howard....Steam up......Tugs62 ........You ALL have not only critisised the show and venue so come on PROVE me wrong ................I know my money is SAFE as you wouldnt do a better job yourselves.

Dave

Netleyned · « **Reply #77 on:** October 19, 2013, 07:42:56 pm »

Not knocking the show or the organisers.
You guys put on a brilliant show
The venue is past it's sell by and you guys that
put all the hard work in deserve better.

Ned

kinmel · « **Reply #78 on:** October 19, 2013, 07:47:13 pm »

Quote from: Stavros on October 19, 2013, 07:22:20 pm

To all you show knockers you KNOW who you ARE I challenge you the ones who ALLWAYS knock ANY show whick you attend to ORGANISE a show .

I KNOW for a FACT you COULDNT so who wants to take me up on it and No it CAN NOT be a show that is organissed by OTHERS £500 says YOU CAN NOT ORGANISE ONE SO come on Kinmel....Netland....Howard....Steam up......Tugs62 ........You ALL have not only critisised the show and venue so come on PROVE me wrong ................I know my money is SAFE as you wouldnt do a better job yourselves

No-one doubts it takes a huge effort to arrange such events.

A complaint provides the organisers an opportunity to impress and wild rants impress no-one, it merely re-enforces our belief that nothing will change.

Without changes more and more people will simply not turn up to pay £6 at such a venue.

Instead of jumping on complainants, you would be better served by worrying about the people who won't complain and won't come again anyway.

At least the complaints give you an opportunity to investigate and improve.

Howard · « **Reply #79 on:** October 19, 2013, 08:01:09 pm »

Ned &Kimmel have said it all its not you guys who do all the hard work Stavros but as been said many times the venue that let the show down and I,ve always had a huge respect for you Stavros but after your silly little boy rant I wonder its people like you why even this site is lossing members remember like you we allhour views to. like we said we was,nt and never would have a go at the great guys who put in the time to put on shows for which we are grateful its the VENUE we question.
Regards Howard.

tugs62 · « **Reply #80 on:** October 19, 2013, 08:11:28 pm »

I wasnt knocking the show just the venue talk to people that have paid to stay in the hotel
i live in Blackpool and even the locals say the same the last time the place saw some paint was when a pot was dropped outside
but as i say its not the show and the organisers do a fantastic job ever year but the place is letting us all down look round this year and see how many tables are empty

steam up · « **Reply #81 on:** October 19, 2013, 09:42:48 pm »

Stavros your response and the venue are the problem

. I have been to the show on a number of occasions but enough is enough the venue is terrible as is your childish rant says it all.
I take my hat off to the clubs who turn up and try their best to make the most of a bad show some even bringing lighting.

Norseman · « **Reply #82 on:** October 19, 2013, 10:18:40 pm »

My boss always says something that annoys me but in part he is right. A problem is just an opportunity for success. I guess that is true of the venues lighting.

That aside I enjoyed the traders and clubs, spent a few shillings and met some new faces (albeit well lived in faces)... I even had lunch with a guy called Kinmel. Amazing chap - uses that circular circular breathing technique for the didgeridoo - thereby he doesn't need to breathe between sentences

. Only kidding, we waited ages for lunch and chatted away.

So thanks to the organisers for what they did. I also went and thanked one of the traders for having the best lighting in the room

The boat I enjoyed most was on the Southport stand; 1:6 Pibber. Had a great chat with the builder too. It was worth the trip for that alone.

I left as the storm started and within minutes water was spurting 18" into the air from drains all over the place. By Wigan the sky had turned blue again, another twenty miles further and I knew the wife was home - I could see the black cloud hanging over the house; it's ok she never goes on Mayhem

Regards Dave

Sandy · « **Reply #83 on:** October 19, 2013, 10:26:46 pm »

Quote from: Norseman on October 19, 2013, 10:18:40 pm

The boat I enjoyed most was on the Southport stand; 1:6 Pibber.

No such thing. It is called a PBR. It was never, ever, EVER called a Pibber.

However, you did get something right, the owner was a truly great gent.

Norseman · « **Reply #84 on:** October 19, 2013, 10:41:04 pm »

Yes Sandy, it certainly is a PBR and it wasn't referred to as a Pibber in the navy. It is often referred to as a Pibber now though. Whether that is usage, slang or ignorance I don't know. I can't escape it because my late friend HS93 Peter relentlessly talked me into buying a "Pibber" like his

So in his memory I guess I'll stick with the colloquial. Sentimental fool that I am.

Dave

Neil · « **Reply #85 on:** October 19, 2013, 11:14:54 pm »

Quote from: Norseman on October 19, 2013, 10:41:04 pm

Yes Sandy, it certainly is a PBR and it wasn't referred to as a Pibber in the navy. It is often referred to as a Pibber now though. Whether that is usage, slang or ignorance I don't know. I can't escape it because my late friend HS93 Peter relentlessly talked me into buying a "Pibber" like his So in his memory I guess I'll stick with the colloquial. Sentimental fool that I am.

Dave

and great to meet you today at last, Dave.

cheers for the support.

neil

Neil · « **Reply #86 on:** October 19, 2013, 11:27:40 pm »

I don't want to get into any of this argument, as I enjoy going to the show, and find the hall adequate, but I did notice a goodly area of emptiness about the display stands.

After all, I'm not there to look at the décor of a hotel that was long past it's prime when I was a teenage drinker in the old bar, 40 + years ago,I go to look at the boats and trade stands and meet friends and acquaintances made through such sites as mayhem.

But might I suggest that if the organisers are at any stage looking for a different venue, they might look at the Marine Hall at Fleetwood.
I organised a large show there in 1986 and it was good.........even a double page spread in Model Boats.

It has a bar, canteens, food of good quality in the café at reasonable prices, ample parking both in the car park adjacent, and on the prom, good access for traders and has a large main hall similar in size to Norbreck with annexes, plus a staged area also.

just a thought, and this comes from one who HAS organised a show at such a venue.

the only problem is that there isn't the capacity in the town (Fleetwood) anymore for cheep B & B like there is in Blackpool.

neil.

Rottweiler · « **Reply #87 on:** October 19, 2013, 11:58:35 pm »

Yes the hotel is tired I agree,but what you get for the lowly price you pay more than makes up for it.The beds are comfortable,and the room is clean and tidy,and cleaned every day. the bed linen and towels are changed every day,and the beds made.I have a massive whirlpool bath in my room,which is great.The water is piping hot.
Ok the dining room is very busy,but the tables are quickly cleared between courses.Again everything bar the soup is on a self service basis,NO different to queing for a carvery meal.The choice of menu is excellent and there is plenty of everything.You can go to more up market hotels and not get the quality of food that is served here.
The hall does have its faults,but I go to display my model,look and admire other exhibitors models,and get a chance to "see in the flesh" what items are available to the model builder from the many traders who DO attend.I do not go to look at the decor.If it should move to Fleetwood as Neil suggests,I would still come on my 7 hour plus journey,and wouldnt mind in the least commuting from Blackpool to the new venue on a daily basis.
There are a few empty tables which I was surprised about,but there is still plenty to see,and some really superb models.
Its a good job we are all different.
Organisers,you are doing a grand job,and congratulations to you.
Mick F

Neil · « **Reply #88 on:** October 20, 2013, 12:41:33 am »

well said Mick........... I have been there, done that and actually got the T shirt................and certainly wouldn't want another.

the organisers do a truly grand job and are to be commended.......perhaps the knockers would like to bring a pot of paint and some brighter bulbs to the venue next year...........say a week before so there's plenty of time for the paint to dry, lol

steam up · « **Reply #89 on:** October 20, 2013, 01:28:23 am »

What a sad bunch, we are allowed free will and I have decided that I am not going to the Blackpool show again.
I am glad that people enjoyed the show I DID NOT last year as a number of show stands had poor lighting.
I am glad that many visitors do not mind the stink in the toilets I DID last year.
I am glad that the food as good enough for some IT WAS NOT FOR ME.
I hope that those who went to the show could enjoy the models on the day and not have to wait until they looked at the photos they had taken taking advantage of the flash facility.

malcolmfrary · « **Reply #90 on:** October 20, 2013, 10:18:55 am »

Mention has been made of the Marine Hall. I remember great shows going on there, it being the August Bank Holiday Show before Ellesmere stepped into the void left when they missed a year, and it was suggested as an alternative a few years ago. As a result I went for a look. Pacing the outside of the building, and having a floor plan of the Norcalympia in my pocket, I concluded that the Marine Hall would fit inside the Norcalympia hall with a little room to spare. So a much smaller venue.
There are very few venues large enough around the country, and all have downsides. Most facilities are designed as sports facilities, and are based on the size of a basketball court. Most that are designed as exhibition halls are converted from another use and have drawbacks involving a lack of parking, inner city regulation or being sited well out of the way.

TheLongBuild · « **Reply #91 on:** October 20, 2013, 10:58:38 am »

Looking at the Marine hall pictures I could not see them wanting the pond inside.

Bob K · « **Reply #92 on:** October 20, 2013, 04:59:41 pm »

Can I ask a dumb question please? Years ago when I was running large indoor sports events, and before I got back into model boats, there used to be a big model show at the Winter Gardens in Blackpool around this time of year. I remember it well as they were starting to set up in another hall as we were clearing down from our event in the Empress Ballroom. Same model show ?

TheLongBuild · « **Reply #93 on:** October 20, 2013, 09:32:12 pm »

Yes
same show

Rottweiler · « **Reply #94 on:** October 20, 2013, 11:05:50 pm »

I have just realised why there were so many complaints about the Lighting at Blackpool..... It was purely because our Mayhem Boss Martin, didnt come,and dazzle us all with one of his legendary coloured shirts, although Mark from Marks Model Bits, did his best with his toned down version!
Nuff said.
Mick F

Norseman · « **Reply #95 on:** October 20, 2013, 11:38:14 pm »

But what about the boats lads? Which was your own best in show? Neil has declared for a lifeboat, and I for a Pibber (nee PBR

) so ....

Dave

F4TCT · « **Reply #96 on:** October 20, 2013, 11:49:49 pm »

Quote from: rottweiler on October 19, 2013, 11:58:35 pm

Yes the hotel is tired I agree,but what you get for the lowly price you pay more than makes up for it.The beds are comfortable,and the room is clean and tidy,and cleaned every day. the bed linen and towels are changed every day,and the beds made.I have a massive whirlpool bath in my room,which is great.The water is piping hot.
Ok the dining room is very busy,but the tables are quickly cleared between courses.Again everything bar the soup is on a self service basis,NO different to queing for a carvery meal.The choice of menu is excellent and there is plenty of everything.You can go to more up market hotels and not get the quality of food that is served here.
The hall does have its faults,but I go to display my model,look and admire other exhibitors models,and get a chance to "see in the flesh" what items are available to the model builder from the many traders who DO attend.I do not go to look at the decor.If it should move to Fleetwood as Neil suggests,I would still come on my 7 hour plus journey,and wouldnt mind in the least commuting from Blackpool to the new venue on a daily basis.
There are a few empty tables which I was surprised about,but there is still plenty to see,and some really superb models.
Its a good job we are all different.
Organisers,you are doing a grand job,and congratulations to you.
Mick F

I must have been staying in a different norbreck.... £140 odd for two nights. The bed was disgraceful, I've slept on a more comfy cactus. There was clear signs of damp, the beds and bathroom were dirty aswell as the carpet. The room smelt like a decaying pig. Ended up checking out and staying at the travel lodge, still here as I type this. Needless to say got a full refund.

As for the show, I arrived at 4:15 pm and walked in free. Found the hall to be like walking into a cave although the models and traders are first class so thanks to all who made the effort. Lighting seemed dim although not a huge issue. Nice display of models although I wish there were more. Parking at the hotel is disgraceful although I got parked up quickly and to be fair, it's a one off issue. The place is generally neglected and not worth the money and major investment needed in the place. I certainly will never return.

Few pics to follow when I get home.

Dan

geids · « **Reply #97 on:** October 21, 2013, 07:31:19 am »

Against, toilets, price of food, not the best lighting I have seen. For, very helpful traders, some great models, meeting new folks. Overall, worth the 370 mile round trip, yes

Finally, while there is some area's that could be improved, from my own experience, you could pick up some people by limo, give them waiter service and have everything for free, and they would still find something to complain about.

Rottweiler · « **Reply #98 on:** October 21, 2013, 08:07:15 am »

Quote from: geids on October 21, 2013, 07:31:19 am

Against, toilets, price of food, not the best lighting I have seen. For, very helpful traders, some great models, meeting new folks. Overall, worth the 370 mile round trip, yes Finally, while there is some area's that could be improved, from my own experience, you could pick up some people by limo, give them waiter service and have everything for free, and they would still find something to complain about.

Mick F

F4TCT,
Dan this argument could go on forever,but tell me this please,where in Whitby or anywhere in North Yorkshire,and yes in my area (Cornwall) could you get such cheap and cheerful accomodation.We aim to stay in your area(again) this year and we have to pay WAY above those rates for a self catering caravan on one of the cheaper sites.?

Rottweiler · « **Reply #99 on:** October 21, 2013, 08:13:26 am »

Quote from: Norseman on October 20, 2013, 11:38:14 pm

But what about the boats lads? Which was your own best in show? Neil has declared for a lifeboat, and I for a Pibber (nee PBR ) so ....

Dave

Dave
I am very biased,and would have to go for Neils Lifeboat.Ray Scrivens "Brittania is just superb.
For fun value,it has just got to be the Teddy Bears display,though sadly he was not allowed to use certain items,such as the hovercraft because of the noise.
Its a shame I didnt get to meet you,I would like to have had a chat about Canada and Mick B !
Mick F

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Stavros