Topic: Build the Bismarck - a "Hachett" job? (Read 1391027 times)

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #1325 on:** September 08, 2010, 06:16:16 pm »

Stuck on another secret project at the moment.... !

Hilux5972 · « **Reply #1326 on:** September 24, 2010, 07:50:53 am »

Hi all.

Regarding painting the Swastika on the decks. How did everyone, that has painted it on, do it? Did you brush paint it? I have already tried to spray paint it on and ended up having the paint bleed through all the deck.

So got replacement issues & dont want to have the same thing happen.

Cheers All

Ryan

cbr900 · « **Reply #1327 on:** September 24, 2010, 02:49:50 pm »

Hilux,

All I did mate was paint the red section and the Swastika on the white circle is a sticker...........

Roy

Hilux5972 · « **Reply #1328 on:** September 25, 2010, 04:26:04 am »

But how did you paint the red? When i spray painted mine, the paint bled all over the decking.

cbr900 · « **Reply #1329 on:** September 25, 2010, 03:00:03 pm »

Usually if the paint bleeds badly it means one of two things, the base coat was not properly dry
or the fresh paint was not compatible with what was there..........

Roy

Hilux5972 · « **Reply #1330 on:** September 26, 2010, 02:32:54 am »

Great. Thanks Roy

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #1331 on:** September 27, 2010, 07:20:24 am »

Anyone going to build this?

http://www.model-space.co.uk/ships/battleship-yamato

steve pickstock · « **Reply #1332 on:** September 27, 2010, 07:28:02 am »

If I'm not mistaken that is the one that Jinx8 is building now.

Eric65 · « **Reply #1333 on:** September 29, 2010, 12:21:49 am »

My Bismarck comes closer to compleation!

Hilux5972 · « **Reply #1334 on:** September 29, 2010, 03:34:01 am »

Looking Good Eric. We are up to Issue 126 this week in New Zealand so we are almost at an end too.

Jimmy James · « **Reply #1335 on:** September 30, 2010, 08:51:55 pm »

cbr900
That Swastika you posted on your Bismarck looks a bit strange to me ---more like the Finnish one than the German one --- I could be mistaken if so I apologise for alarming you (The Finnish one is the opposite way around to the German one) She's a really nice looking model no matter which way it is.
Freebooter

essex2visuvesi · « **Reply #1336 on:** September 30, 2010, 10:05:41 pm »

Quote from: Martin - admin. on September 27, 2010, 07:20:24 am

Anyone going to build this?

http://www.model-space.co.uk/ships/battleship-yamato

I would like to but the Wife says no Im not

Ive got the Deagostini Victory, and modelspace Cutty sark to build lol

Eric65 · « **Reply #1337 on:** October 21, 2010, 08:24:35 pm »

Another Bismarck completed and ready to set sail.

justboatonic · « **Reply #1338 on:** October 21, 2010, 08:49:44 pm »

Some really good builds here! I never thought the magazine kit could be built so well!

The long Build · « **Reply #1339 on:** October 21, 2010, 08:57:56 pm »

Looks absolutely superb.

kelvin · « **Reply #1340 on:** October 24, 2010, 03:44:16 pm »

I agree, alot of text without any photos is quit boring,

so here is my story so far

John R Haynes · « **Reply #1341 on:** December 11, 2010, 10:09:19 am »

In reply to the question , what are the small guns doing sitting atop the main turrets. These were practice guns and linked to the main guns in the turret below . Gun crews could then practice firing the main guns but in reality only used the smaller guns with much smaller ammunition and thus save a great deal of money and wear and tear of the main gun barrels.

derekwarner · « **Reply #1342 on:** December 11, 2010, 11:30:36 am »

mmmm

sorry ....John R Haynes ... the POP guns ''a top" the main ordance were cosmetic & for AA [anti aircraft] use only >>:...there was no electro/mechanical relationship between the respective elements

The main ordanance could displace a 1000 kg projectile ...possibly 15 Km
The secondary POP guns ''a top" the main ordance could displace a 25 kg projectile about 1 Km......Derek

dreadnought72 · « **Reply #1343 on:** December 11, 2010, 03:37:48 pm »

Sorry, Derek - there were mechanical linkages between the turret top guns on the Dreadnought, and the main weapons below, for a fact.

Andy

derekwarner · « **Reply #1344 on:** December 12, 2010, 04:58:12 am »

Andy.....

one of the important things with Mayhem....is that we never need to say sorry

, however it is important to understand fact

1. vintage battle vessels... such as the dreadnaught class..did have auxiliary AA ancillaries mounted atop of the principal armament
2. the hydraulic & electrical supply for these AA ancillaries was via the principal armament structure
3. these secondary AA ancillaries had not only independent hydraulic systems to the principal armament, but also independent electrical supply systems to their own independent hydraulic/electrical systems...over again to the principal armament
4. the principal armament was controlled by mechanical computers [gears, cogs, pins & disks.....] Bill Gates parent's were not born yet

5. the secondary AA ancillaries were ...'aim & shoot'.....nothing more ....nothing less

With reflection....the electro/mechanical military designer/stratagets of the last century were brilliant thinkers

& possibly a little before or ahead of their time

....Derek

pugwash · « **Reply #1345 on:** December 12, 2010, 09:24:25 am »

Is there a difnitive answer - I spent an hour last night going thru' any books I had on the subject of battleships main armament
and I am still non the wiser as to what is the correct answer but don't lets go to war about it - save that till Perth cricket ground on
Thursday.
Geoff

John R Haynes · « **Reply #1346 on:** December 12, 2010, 12:15:34 pm »

All I can say is when I was restoring the IWM 1/48 scale models in the 8o's there were linkages from the guns on top of the turrets down into the turret structure itself . To see this on the models go to my site www.johnrhaynes.com/portfolio and look at the Agamemnon photos shown . when I queried this with the War Museum they confirmed what I previously posted

marmoi · « **Reply #1347 on:** December 12, 2010, 12:28:05 pm »

Having spent many hours investigating the Dreadnoughts turret drawings, I can confirm that the guns on top of the turrets did have linkages into the main turret so they could be connected for training purposes. Anti air craft guns were not a consideration when the Dreadnought was designed, only anti torpedo boat guns.

John R Haynes · « **Reply #1348 on:** December 12, 2010, 03:26:09 pm »

Also if you refer to John Roberts Dreadnought book page 234 you will find a large diagramme of the 12pdr with linkage , described as connected up for short range practice.. The accompaning write up says this reduced the cost for practice firing

Hilux5972 · « **Reply #1349 on:** January 10, 2011, 07:48:25 pm »

Hi all. Just picked up the last issue here in NZ. Pics will be uploaded when she is complete.

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