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yacht servos winches, Drum or arm?
« on: July 30, 2013, 06:37:40 pm »

HI all,
Which method proves best for my 1mt, yacht as I am at present referbing the yacht and need to decide to fit a new system.
Thanks for reading.
Rod.
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Re: yacht servos winches, Drum or arm?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2013, 06:46:33 pm »

Most 1metre yachts use a sail winch.
However there are some high torque servos
that could work.
If you are using IOM size sails a winch would
be best.

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Re: yacht servos winches, Drum or arm?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 01:37:09 am »

Pros and cons of each


Drum winch
Adv
You can get a lot of line hauled in, allowing for control of longer booms.
Because the radius is small, there is less of an issue with torque.
Narrow and do not require a lot of space.


Disadv
Much slower to haul in sails as they may take up to 2.5 turns.
You need to fit tensioners (not difficult)or other thing to stop slack line jumping off the drum and tangling.


Sail arm
Adv.
Fast only use 1/2 revolution for full range of motion
Won't tangle.
Simple to fit. (although people do over complicate the issue with pulleys that are not really needed.


Disadv.
The arm needs room to rotate. If you have a lot of line you need a long arm. The arm needs to rotate inside the hull and so there are limits to the amount of line you can pull.
Longer arms need higher torque, and this can be substantial. This not only affects the specifications of servos you buy, you also need to make any mountings for the servo strong enough, and consider if this torque will strain the hull (esp FG or ABS).


On balance. Once you get up to 1m a drum winch will be the best option for most boats. Unless they are very beamy you won't get an arm long enough to do the job in the hull.

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Re: yacht servos winches, Drum or arm?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2013, 07:36:27 am »

Hi Tigertiger, that was the view point I was looking for, giving pros, and cons.
I have a hitec drum in it at the moment, so I may sail it and decide whether to buy a more up to date vesion.
What specification would be best?
Thanks Rod.
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Re: yacht servos winches, Drum or arm?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 10:19:00 am »

Hitec servos are generally very robust and relatively cheap.


Some other brands have better performance  torque/speed, or more turns, but cost 3-5x as much.
There are some super winches out there that cost over 100 quid.


If you are not racing, the differences in performance are minor and you would not really notice much difference. Certainly not in a way that would affect your sailing experience.
IMHO
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