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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #50 on: April 05, 2011, 02:00:42 pm »

Do make sure that the receiver you are using is compatible with the transmitter. For example, a MR3000 Marine receiver will not operate with a DX6i or DX7i    http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMMR3000
Just a thought............it wouldn't be the first time that this had caused a problem.
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #51 on: April 05, 2011, 02:29:31 pm »

I beg to differ.

From your link the words are in black an white "The MR3000 is also compatible with Spektrum and JR® DSM2™ aircraft radios." last time I looked a DX6i and a DX7 were aircraft radios.... :-))

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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #52 on: April 05, 2011, 04:20:42 pm »

I beg to differ.

From your link the words are in black an white "The MR3000 is also compatible with Spektrum and JR® DSM2™ aircraft radios." last time I looked a DX6i and a DX7 were aircraft radios.... :-))

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from the website
Compatible Surface Transmitters: the new DX3S (SPM3140), DX2S (SPM2120), DX3E (SPM3160), the new DX2.0 (SPM20220), and the new DX3.0 (SPM20320).  Earlier versions of the DX3S, DX2.0, and DX3.0 are not compatible with this receiver.  Please look for the Marine logo on the back of your transmitter and check the transmitter part number for compatibility.

So it might be that the marine and aircraft ones ARE slightly different
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2011, 04:53:55 pm »

I quote the wording....
The MR3000 is compatible with Spektrum surface transmitters featuring the marine logo. If your transmitter has the Marine logo (located on the back side of the transmitter), then it is compatible with the MR3000.  The MR3000 is also compatible with Spektrum and JR® DSM2™ aircraft radios.
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2011, 05:18:19 pm »

Fair enough

Ill be quiet lol
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2011, 06:09:15 pm »

Dave, another hornets nest.  Pete
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #56 on: April 05, 2011, 06:18:56 pm »

Oops - didn't see that.  :D
(Bet that made your day, didn't it?   8))
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #57 on: April 05, 2011, 10:23:33 pm »

I'm reading through these threads lot's and as a newbie(I don't have anything AT ALL, so no idea what is being talked about) I'm interested in what type of system I should buy for a simple build, advice please :embarrassed:
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2011, 10:46:32 pm »

I'm reading through these threads lot's and as a newbie(I don't have anything AT ALL, so no idea what is being talked about) I'm interested in what type of system I should buy for a simple build, advice please :embarrassed:

Cheap, reliable, 2.4Ghz radio. Planet 5.

http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/RadioControl/viewProducts.php?SubCatID=237
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #59 on: April 05, 2011, 11:02:29 pm »

id agree with you dicky , very good value for money , have a good range , and easy to bind new rxs to the tx !
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2011, 11:51:22 pm »

Thanks gents :}, funnily enough it's what I'd concluded and Howes is the store I spent my childhood in(although in a different location) {-)
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #61 on: April 06, 2011, 01:51:45 am »


And ,no it is a bad question.


What I meant to say ,was no it was not a bad question.
Sorry for the type O  :embarrassed:

I had sent off an e-mail to Futaba asking for some part numbers to Modify my new 6EX 2.4.
I have to say I was quite surprised at the reply from them.
quote from the e-mail.
Here are the part numbers you requested.
Please send us your mailing info so I can send then to you ,at no charge. :-))

After rereading this post I went and rechecked my Spectrum again just to make sure it was not me.
Went to there web sight and followed there instructions to the letter.
Every thing worked,on the radio end .
Pulled the ship out of the cellar and guess what, no throttle on 4 different ships .
So I sent off an e-mail to the good people at Spectrum .
The reply I received from them was less than I would have liked.
There reply was,

Thank you for sending an e-mail to the Horizon Hobby Product Support
Staff.  Due to the technical nature of e-mails that we receive, please
allow 3-5 business days for a response.

What kind of help is this?
Horizon used to be one of the best for servicing there product ,but they are slowly loosing a good customer  <:(
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2011, 12:42:59 pm »

You old smooth talker you!
Where to begin. Do you have a spare couple of days?...

Spektrum versus Futaba. We're treading on thin ice here because no matter how much thought has gone into wording my own opinions, the problem of upsetting owners of certain R/C equipment will always be there; no person likes to hear that their particular brand of Tx is inferior to other brands, so my opinion is simply just that - an opinion, and not necessarily the same opinions of other folk. All I can offer is an unbiased view of the good points, along with the bad points, of R/C equipment and leave it for yourself and others to make up their own minds.
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, you might consider the build quality of each radio. In my opinion this is where the Futaba leaves the Spektrum standing...
2.4GHz: Futaba employ their FASST system, while Spektrum employ their DSM system. Now without getting too deep into the technicalities, the FASST system (again just my own personal opinion) is far superior in every way. I still feel that Spektrum's Spread Technology system is very clever stuff, but also feel that they rushed their ideas before fully putting the system through its paces. ...
You mentioned that you are considering selling your DX7's. Please don't do that on my say-so. If you're happy with your Spektrum gear, and it works for you, then by all means give it the tender loving care that you think it deserves. After all, there are many hundreds of Spektrum owners on this forum alone and each one are perfectly happy with them.

Pete,

Apologies for not thanking you earlier re my request on your opinion between Futaba/Spektrum 2.4Ghz gear. I left you standing in the wind copping flake from all directions. A brilliant and thorough response as I have come to expect from you and well explained.

I'm going down the line of purchasing the 8FGA Super 2.4Ghz - more money but more confident in operation and ease of use. I originally started modelling using the old 7 FG 36Mhz set - had it for years and no hassles....

Thanks again for your opinion......much appreciated. :-))

Last Question: will the Spektrum Digital Servos (as supplied with the DX7) work with the 8 FGA Super - I seem to have a number of them......

Martin doon under
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2011, 11:25:46 pm »

I would hazard it's already a foregone conclusion that you'll enjoy your 8FG Super and you'll be glad that you spent the extra $$. It's jam-packed with nice, easily programmable features and also guarantees you the satisfaction of reliability and built like a tank. It's also future-proof - able to handle any possible new-fangled gizmos that may come along later on down the road. The only downside is the rather steep cost of extra receivers. Fortunately there are available receivers now which are 100% compatible with the Futaba FASST system at just a fraction of the price of dedicated Fut' receivers. And in case you're wondering, yes - I use them myself, and yes, they are 110% reliable - totally glitch free.

With regards to your last question, all I can say is that I've been using Spektrum digital servos in a model airframe in conjuction with my Fut' transmitter for some time now and have not noticed any compatibility issues at all - they work just fine. But it might be worth mentioning that most all digi' servos tend to draw more current than their analogue counterparts. They are also prone to 'hunt' for their neutral position when the transmitter stick is at its centre position. In effect, the servo horn tends to constantly twitch, which in turn means even more of a drain on the receiver battery. In my case I use a 5-cell battery pack to supply the receiver and I've never experienced that unwanted 'hunting' effect; the servos remain rock steady regardless of the position of the Tx stick. I can only assume that the reason some folk are experiencing twitchy digital servos is maybe because they are using a 4-cell battery pack. Who knows, I'm just guessing.
Also, digital servos do operate slightly faster than analogue servos, which is why the flyboys who operate super-fast 3D airframes need a fast response on their ailerons and such. But the way I see it, digi' servos are maybe an overkill when used for model boats. In my humble experience, bog-standard Futaba analogue servos are sufficient for 99.9% of the time anyway. On the other hand, since you already have several digital servos to play with, then go ahead and try them by all means. If you're using them in a super-fast boat you might appreciate the slightly faster response to the rudder input from the Tx. If you should notice any unwanted twitching, then you might try using a 5-cell battery to see if that cures the problem.

Now, are you sitting down? Sitting comfortably?......
All that you have read above regarding digital servos is just my way of trying to sound polite and unbiased. If I had the chance to say what I really think of digi' servos I'm sure I'd be shot down in flames. Basically, I think digi's are more trouble than they are actually worth. They are waaaay overpriced and waaaay too power hungry. The only reason I installed them in my airframe is because they were all I had to hand at the time. As I said above, I use a 5-cell pack, rated at 2900mA.  2.9 Amps should theoretically last for ages before needing a recharge, but a digi' servo on each aileron, and another on the throttle and one more on the rudder means that my 2.9A battery needs a recharge after just a measly thirty minutes or so. Yes, I am biased towards standard analogue servos because I only fly my plane at a sedate speed anyway - I have no need for super-fast reaction on the control surfaces. So to this end I shall soon bin the digital servos in favour of analogue ones. (Now standy and listen to the pro-digital brigade rip me to bits).


Good luck with your 8FG Super, Martin. I'm already betting my bottom dollar that you're going to be chuffed to bits with it.
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #64 on: May 11, 2011, 01:08:47 am »

Good commentary and brings to mind why the switch to "digital' in all areas from analogue, particularly when the existing analogue systems/devices are functioning satisfactorily and we constantly hear of problems with 'digital' equipment, digressing, mobile phones AKA cell phones, TV.
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #65 on: May 15, 2011, 05:25:02 pm »

I am looking at buying a computer type system as I am getting more and more biased to yacht sailing/racing and having used a GC 4ch 2.4 for two years
with no problems I would like to be able to use EPA and also Variable rate rudder.
Read all the manufacturers blurbs time to ask the experts. What's your opinion guys?


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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #66 on: May 16, 2011, 12:15:42 am »

Spektrum has a new DX7 out with a telemetry option....
worth a look http://www.horizonhobby.co.uk/aeroonline/e6spektrum/e6_dx7s/e6_dx7s.html

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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2011, 05:49:07 pm »

I just bought a Multiplex cockpit sx mainly for gliding but may try it in a boat oh and it's yellow :-))





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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #68 on: May 22, 2011, 06:45:27 pm »

Does that mean it's faster Dave  {-)
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« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2011, 07:47:24 pm »

Does that mean it's faster Dave  {-)

Loads faster!! i might have to put a red stripe on to slow it down
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Re: Which 2.4Ghz Radio
« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2011, 09:25:54 pm »

All the modern servos I've taken a can opener to are digital anyway- e.g. they all use microcontrollers, they're just programmed differently.

Many digital servos are programmable,  and if yours are you could try increasing the deadband a bit for less critical use, which will reduce current consumption.
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