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bronco type 23 build
« on: September 01, 2014, 10:43:56 am »

This is my attempt at building a working model of the type 23 using the centre hull joint for access, there are other ways of modify ing the hull, this is my attempt , I really believe I can do this, you should read Kaptain Bill Thomas, s series of article's on mayhem as he relates his experience of building and sailing submarines.
This a nice kit, the one real problem with it is getting the main hull sections to line up and stay butted up to make a good joint, try dry fitting the hull together,  or hold it together with masking tape.

In the end I gave in, that was December,  about  march I had another go , I had read an article on vac form models and how it was necessary to glue tabs along the inside edges of the model to give the joints strength, this what I did wth the bronco at points along the hull, it helped,.
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2014, 02:18:36 pm »

Mine just would not go together, so I gave up with it...put it on the floor and stamped on it. Several times.


Then filed it under B1N...


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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2014, 07:08:56 pm »

Mine nearly went the same way richard, here's another view of the plasticard wtc supports. The wtc is 65mm in diameter whitch sits nicely in the lower hull stern section and the aluminum bar in the upper and lower hull, the upper bar also supports the tower, regards pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2014, 07:30:51 pm »

Now I see what you meant, Pete...very neat solution to the problem.


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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2014, 07:48:17 pm »

Thanks richard, you never know, you might want to have another go, and dont mean jumping up and down on it, this view shows how the tower sits , the upper bar is missing the nut and bolt go  through the  hull  the bar then through a plasticard plate in the floor of the tower, regards pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2014, 09:02:30 pm »

That is very clever Pete...well impressive stuff.


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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2014, 09:54:38 pm »

Cheers Richard, in nutshell I've tried to do what robbe did with u47, exept with battery in the wet and used as ballast, screws and nuts on centre joint screws and nuts on the tower and the battery section, so to charge up the battery just drop out the hull section, the rest of the hull need never be taken apart except for wtc maintenance,  pete


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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2014, 02:46:06 am »

Thanks for posting your Type23 build.

So the only thing that'll hold the front and rear sections together will be the bottom aluminum flat bar?
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2014, 03:43:19 pm »

There two flat bar's an upper one which also holds the tower in place and lower one, regards pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2014, 03:52:26 pm »

Tower mount bolt
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2014, 01:39:36 pm »

The more I muck about with this boat the more I realise what a good kit it is and it probably would make a very good dynamic diver not having much freeboard on the surface, which means you dont have to have pumps and bags and stuff, and you're far more likely to get your boat back, well sometimes.
The pic I've posted is of the top of the tower and lower support deck , the periscope has athreaded rod in  the lower section of the of the scope, this allows the whole of inner tower deck, schnorkel df loop and other stuff to be removed to get at the tower bolt. Pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2014, 01:42:56 pm »

View of tower with friction washer (o ring) on periscope,  pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2014, 01:47:33 pm »

View of main connection screw holding fore and aft sections together, through conning tower hatch, there is another screw through the bar in the keel, pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2014, 02:23:34 pm »

That is amazing, Pete...how on earth did you work that lot out? Makes me wish I'd waited before I built (or tried to build) mine.  <:(


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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2014, 03:38:07 pm »

I'm not sure myself richard its weird the stuff that pops into your head while your waiting for scs to turn up, just thought I'd have a look at 505, pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2014, 03:43:14 pm »

Build so far
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2014, 04:47:12 pm »

Get them holes opened up, mate...you know you want to!

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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2014, 10:09:59 pm »

Mmmmmm I'm really tempted, back to the bronco, view of main propshaft  bearing and the lower cut away access panel, I cut all of the panels out with razor saw, before joining the hull sections and also where possible cut behind the weld lines , so that when the battery holder panel is offered up to the main hull, the joins are not as noticeably,  pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2014, 09:38:53 am »

Ive found a set of micro drill bits, while strictly is on the telly  could  do the deck on 505, .........
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2014, 10:10:21 am »

Ha ha...I knew you couldn't resist!!

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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2014, 08:43:56 am »

Hi richard, im in hull marina at the moment just got internet connection,  saw the post about the krick its the plastic hull version, and yes im tempted to drill those holes, pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2014, 08:17:14 pm »

After a brief pause and a check over, the hull with battery in place keeps its rigidity, a view of the hull showing battery cutaway.
Have begun fitting the fiddly bits like the life raft hatch lugs, rungs all very small, or my hands are too big, next rudder rear planes and stabilisers and cams, then ballast and trim test, pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2014, 08:27:30 pm »

That's looking real good, Pete...keep it coming.


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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2014, 08:31:06 pm »

Thanks richard,  here's a view of the battery housing under construction,  pete
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Re: bronco type 23 build
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2014, 08:37:47 pm »

Another view of wtc in situ showing battery connections and air connection tube to airbag, regards pete
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