Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length.

[Brian60]

This is an interesting if short news item on the German surrender in 1918. Shows the line of English ships that escorted the germans into british waters with quite a few of the ships named. A shame none of the germans are named, but does have a couple of decent photo's

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30128199

[Neil]

I used to have a book called "Dive Scapa Flow"....and in it were photos of every German ship scuttled there, and with each a diver's artist sketch of how they lay ( in around 1980 or so when it was published)..a superb book for anyone interested. neil.

[Bowwave]

Hi Neil  a similar publication Jutland to Junkyard by SC George  deals with the same subject  showing detailed location maps of each and every German Warship of the High Sea Fleet that was interned in Scapa Flow  on 21st November 1918. Following chapters deal with the amazing efforts to salvage many of the larger warships  which where scuttled on the 21st June 1919  a  superbly illustrated  book .
Bowwave   

[mickyrubble]

German Grand fleet .
 I  have a book which i can recommend on the subject called 'THE GRAND SCUTTLE' by Dan van der Vat.It gives a good insite into the polotics and the thinking behind the decision of Rear-Admiral Ludwig von Reuter to order the scuttling.Also covers the salvage operations .

mickyrubble

[oldandperculier]

Thank you for posting the link Brian56. The story of the scuttling of the high seas fleet in Scapa Flow And its subsequent salvage has facinated me for years, I have visited the wrecks several times and what remains is very impressive.
Two more books worth looking for are The story of the salvage of a large part of the fleet by Earnest Cox, an epic tale itself. recounted in The man who bought a navy by Gerald Bowman. The story of the events leading up to the scuttle from the point of view of a German sailor interned on the torpedo boat B110 is recounted in Scapa Flow 1919 by Friedrich Ruge.
It long been a pipe dream of mine to build a large scale model of S.M.S Markgraff and I wondered if anyone had come across any suitable plans for model building of the Konig class.


O&P

[tobyker]

My dad visited Scapa flow in the 1920s. They were rowed out to one wreck at low tide and my Pa climbed on to the bridge of one of the German dreadnoughts. He unscrewed a brass rail from the bridge with his penknife and apparently it stood in the hall of their house in Oxford for years. I do wonder what happened to it. His holiday diary records " I wonder what Admiral von Tirpitz would have thought if he knew that a boy from the Oxford preparatory school would one day stand on the bridge of the flagship of the German fleet". Incidentally I believe that the metal salvaged from the scuttled ships had some value in scientific instruments as it was made before the atmosphere was polluted by atomic explosions.

[derekwarner]

tobyker... I understand that most precious & semi precious metals once initially cast into ingots.... are then later subjected to vacuum de-gassing on subsequent melts & pouring's ..... Derek