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2nd hand / antique shops.
« on: February 02, 2019, 07:41:34 am »

I have been watching episodes of 'antiques road trip' and it amazes me how much sellers/dealers drop prices for the teams. one item was 12 pounds and he let them have it for 1 pound. another was 25 and they got it for 5. does this actually happen in the UK or is it set up for the program. I know very few dealers in NZ would drop the price by more than 10 or 15%. 
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2019, 08:56:16 am »

I've never seen the programme, but as someone who spent a large chunk of my working life in British TV, I would say never believe anything you see on the screen!
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2019, 09:11:15 am »

 :-)) that's what I suspected
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2019, 10:12:22 am »

I would guess the big clue why they would drop it so much would be a guy with a camera, a guy with a boom mike, a so called runner and a person directing them to point at this or that.


it's also like the recent programs where a group of people evade being captured or the celebrity SAS guy evading the Indonesian police, big clue there's at least another person holding a camera to get the big shot drama, in the Indonesian one, the SAS guy crept about, but all the police had to do was follow the trail left by the camera man - doh
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2019, 12:27:58 pm »

Hi, I always assumed the lowering of the prices was the payment for advertising the antiques shop.  My first look as you go in to the shop is to look for model boats, often ignored otherwise.

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2019, 12:55:08 pm »

I think it very unlikely that a TV crew is going to go into a shop on the 'off chance' of finding a bargain there. My experience suggests that they would make certain of the bargain being there, and the only way to do that is to take it with them. These things are usually completely set up well in advance, the expense of doing otherwise would prevent the show from ever getting past the accountants.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2019, 01:38:53 pm »

I think the US show Storage Wars was like that.  The storage ares being sown with content.  Stopped watching when I realised that.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2019, 01:51:53 pm »

I have been watching episodes of 'antiques road trip' and it amazes me how much sellers/dealers drop prices for the teams. one item was 12 pounds and he let them have it for 1 pound. another was 25 and they got it for 5. does this actually happen in the UK or is it set up for the program. I know very few dealers in NZ would drop the price by more than 10 or 15%.
Goes on all the time for tv programmes, the seller gets a backhander. I remember when I used to watch wheeler dealers the seller said they wanted so much but brewer always paid a lot less than the seller's 'lowest' price.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2019, 02:00:57 pm »

Plenty of experts on here as you would expect. The ongoing member age survey clearly demonstrates that Mayhem is largely a collection of antiques and curios.  (Few of whom want to pay full price....)  %)

And with a particular interest in China.  :}

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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2019, 02:28:16 pm »

Plenty of experts on here as you would expect. The ongoing member age survey clearly demonstrates that Mayhem is largely a collection of antiques and curios.  (Few of whom want to pay full price....)  %)

And with a particular interest in China. :}

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   That is what puzzles me about BREXIT %%     They are saying that after brexit all the shop shelves will be empty, the Chinese have had no difficulty in burying us in their detritus up till now , why should us leaving the EU hinder them ?
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2019, 02:31:56 pm »

Goes on all the time for tv programmes, the seller gets a backhander. I remember when I used to watch wheeler dealers the seller said they wanted so much but brewer always paid a lot less than the seller's 'lowest' price.


  And when they sold the restored car at a few quid profit they had never costed in End China's hours of labour or any other establishment overheads.
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2019, 03:26:11 pm »

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That is what puzzles me about BREXIT %%     They are saying that after brexit all the shop shelves will be empty, the Chinese have had no difficulty in burying us in their detritus up till now , why should us leaving the EU hinder them ?

I did read somewhere that those big Chinese container ships often call at Rotterdam first. All the cargo is consigned to the EU. So if you have to separate out the UK stuff fot customs checks then it sort of complicates things. And, as stated im my paper this morning, the ships can take six weeks to arrive from China so there is stuff currently on the high seas shipped to the EU which will arrive in Europe after Brexit.

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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2019, 04:48:46 pm »

Before the thread gets closed for straying into politics, the rumour that I heard about such shows was that, apart from the camera and sound man, there was a producer with his wallet out to make up the difference.  It still makes for cheap TV.
The greatest second-hand shop dealer was undoubtedly Aunty Wainwright. 
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2019, 05:03:34 pm »

The greatest second-hand shop dealer was undoubtedly Aunty Wainwright.


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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2019, 07:39:27 pm »

Time was that antique shops had a number/letter code that was written on the label or sticker that would tell other dealers the price that the seller would accept.  I think this has gone by the by now. If you want to get a flavour of the "trade" read the Lovejoy novels by Johnathan Gash (Ian McShane was good but not as much of a lying cheating sw*ne as Lovejoy is in the books) 
Nowadays with the internet, more people have a much better idea of what things are worth.
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2019, 07:47:14 pm »

Things are only worth what people are willing to pay for them. If the ticket price is too high then they won't sell except to the gullible.
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2019, 07:49:31 pm »

My late father in law had an antique/reproduction
furniture shop in Reading.
He made me a director but never told me the codes >>:-(
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2019, 02:27:36 am »

I have been watching episodes of 'antiques road trip' and it amazes me how much sellers/dealers drop prices for the teams. one item was 12 pounds and he let them have it for 1 pound. another was 25 and they got it for 5. does this actually happen in the UK or is it set up for the program. I know very few dealers in NZ would drop the price by more than 10 or 15%.
   


If you run a shop and tv arrives, you would give stuff away if it would get you free air time. 20 quid here, 11 quid there, nothing is it?
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2019, 09:05:44 am »

The other consideration is when they sell the items in the auction house, in most cases they don't make a great profit or loss, so what the seller at the shop does is inflate the price and haggled down to the actual price which is what they would normally go for anyway - it appears  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2019, 08:33:37 am »

never even considered that but yes that's a possible scenario to.
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2019, 08:51:48 am »


There is a antique shop near me where they went in and asked to film and thy said no ,its programs like yours that stop us making a good price for a item ,he told them to leave in and not to come back. So thy do not get there own way all the time .
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